From TUAW:
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Jeppesen, the company that produces most of the paper and electronic “Jepp charts” used by pilots for preflight planning and inflight navigation, announced late last week that jet charter operator Executive Jet Management has received authorization from the Federal Aviation Admin-istration to use the Jeppesen Mobile TC App for iPad as an alternative to paper charts.
This says something about the reliability of the gear — and the battery? — doesn’t it?
It mentions a “rapid decompression test to 51,000 feet in altitude” … but gee, can you imagine Search & Rescue/recovery crews picking through the wreckage looking for an iPad? … nah, too horrible.
Kudos to Apple engineering. Remember this comment? Yup.
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UPDATE: Great comment over on the TUAW stream (I can’t see a way to link to it directly)
Flyboy721 said:
I am an airline First Officer with a large regional airline and while Executive Jet is certainly not the first operator to have the iPad certified as an EFB, it will unfortunately not be nearly as quick and easy for the airlines to do the same. The FAA is notoriously waaaaaaay behind the curve when it comes to technology like such as this and is in fact even somewhat fearful of it as the FAA is filled with old geezers who barely know what a calculator is much less an iPad. Convincing airline management to buy thousands of the devices for their pilots is also another major hurdle. While not nearly as fearful of technology, their bottom line is always the almighty dollar. The only way airlines will adopt them in large numbers is first for the FAA to accept them and then they will have to be convinced that it will be cheaper for them to do this in the long run. On a brighter note, American Airlines has an active testing program for them and we can only hope it will be successful. As for my own airline, one of our fleet managers never passes up a chance to espouse to the powers that be the benefits of going to an EFB via the iPad. He has even done an analysis of the costs and the iPad definitely comes out ahead. But unfortunately, it has so far fallen on deaf ears.
Should I even dare comment…..
Of course! Have at it. 😉 P
Ok, The Ipad is simply a device for consuming material, nothing more nothing less, Many pundits thought it was a game changer!! Many of those people have not picked up their Ipad in months.
No one uses them for productive purposes. Apple 1 consumers 0.
This relaxing of the rules by FAA does not say anything about the standard of the product only maybe that people can easily use it. Battery life in IPad is not great its just ok. But is irrelevant anyway they will have these hard wired in.
But stating this is cudos to Apple is not true there a many more ‘Pads’ that are more than capable of performing this task for FAA.
This reminds me of events when the Iphone arrived, many workplaces rubbing there hands together we will replace our Enterprise phone suite with these Iphone’s. Umm not quite RIM had nothing to worry about because the Iphone is a toy compared to say the Blackberry.
Many tried to replace and ended up going back to a real Enterprise device. I see the same happening here.
If the crew have to type on these I give it a week before crew stop using them in frustration.
And I will eagerly wait for the report when a plane crashs due to pilots reading charts incorrectly dues to greasy finger marks on the screen.
Thanks Craig. Very nice imitation of … well, I don’t know what exactly… spittle-flecked Joe Wilcox regurgitating the iPad ‘consumption-not-creating’
BSmeme.I enjoyed your satire, especially your ‘eagerness’ for a plane crash … and RIM having nothing to worry about!
{snort}
Precious.
PS how long have you owned an iPad?
The Ipad is a consumption device period. Yes you can type emails wippee which yes technically creating work, but most people hate typing on the Ipad its hard to hold the ipad and type efficiently its too big. Buy a stand I hear? Well that defeats the purpose. Buy a Laptop, and would mean Apple have designed a bad product and we can’t have that.
How long have I owned an Ipad? I played with one for 4 hours
I would never buy an I-pad they are a waste of money. If I had money to burn yeah it would be a fun toy too have. However I get 90% of the fun from my Iphone.
I know the public’s feeling is Blackberry is screwed but the fact remains they have a foot hold in Corporate arena, I realise their share will only head south from here,but Android will make a bigger dent than Apple in the Future, RIM will be market leader in this arena for lot longer yet.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/22/changewave-android-rim-blackberry-corporate/
re RIM — interesting the Nokia CEO said jumping into bed with Microsoft would create a “three horse race” in smartphones: Apple – Android – Windows (whatever)
He •ignored• Blackberry/RIM. Tells you something.
Personally I think you’re understating/missing the creative angles of the iPad … but hey, they’re not compulsory.
Re your earlier comment: “…there a many more ‘Pads’ that are more than capable of performing this task for FAA.”
Oh yes? Many? Name three (that are available now)…
-P
No Nokia CEO is correct hes describing the future of the the overall Cellphone market, I am simply viewing the Corporate/Enterprise market.
Creative Angles/Ideas what the latest version of Angry Birds and News Collaboration Apps? they are addictive and clever I will give you that.
Using your approach.
Firstly Name 3 useful productive uses for the Ipad, that either is not entertainment or is not a collaborator of data available elsewhere. eg flipboard.
Then secondly, Name 1 that’s not available on the I/Pod Phone.
Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t
Archos 9 PC Tablet
Axiotron Modbook
Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Here’s a list:
10 Ways People Are Using The iPad To Create Content, Not Just Consume It
http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-creative-2010-10?slop=1
or your pal John Gruber’s search result for “consumption + ipad” throws up a good wad of things to consider
http://daringfireball.net/search?q=consumption+ipad
You DO realize Craig (I hope) that the “the iPad is only for consumption” line is regarded as sour grapes to the point of cliché …?
I’m sure it’ll be news if/when the FAA approves any of the many flightplan apps already available/just-around-the-corner for
Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t
Archos 9 PC Tablet
Axiotron Modbook
Samsung Galaxy Tab.
… for in-flight navigation, as they have just done for the iPad. Any day now.
– P
PS “not available on the I/Pod Phone” — why is that relevant?
Also just a side note:
Tablets were around for a few years about 10 years ago.
But they eventually failed. Why because people realised they were expensive toys which added no value.
Touch has been perfected since, but other than that nothings changed.
Right. Nohing’s changed:
http://liliputing.com/2011/01/apple-sold-nearly-15-million-ipads-last-year.html
It stayed the same 15 million times.
I can’t work out whether it’s you baiting me or me baiting you … 😉 – P
Its on the Iphone/Ipod is relevant because apparently the IPAD is a “game changer” if its a game changer surely it must be capable of doing things nothing else can do. this statement is simply rubbish its not a game changer. Get over it! its more like a game.
Yes they have sold millions of units, well done Apple, but so has PS3 XBox etc etc or better still, Nintendo DS. These will be used for far longer than the Ipad in my opinion.
That is the 10 best things people are using the IPad for, please yawn.
If that’s not the reason this device is an expensive touch screen television with an Internet connection I don’t know what is.
Item 4 I’m writing a Novel. Stop me from laughing.
You must admit these 10 items are a joke.
This headline is simply window dressing
10 Ways People Are Using The iPad To Create Content, Not Just Consume It.
Yeah they have marginally found only 10 in the whole world and 3 of them are just presenting material. 4 of them are music related. None of them using the hardware any ground breaking way.
Your right we will not see any articles announcing any other devices approved by FAA. The general public know what an IPad is not a eyeballs as a result. The actual drivel in the article is meaningless.
Also it just hit me.
The fact they have had to publish a article claiming its not just a content creator says a lot. As soon as someone creates a top 10 list on anything my BS radar goes off.
“they”? Who is “they”?
I think we’re back to horses for courses, Craig.
I can (I think) envisage your sense of outrage (?) at what you see as undeserved and hyperbolic praise and attention being lavished on the glossy Apple.
I’m not dissing the Galaxy Tab etc. Wait till I see one in the ‘flesh’.
Half of you seems to acknowledge Apple ‘perfected’ multi-touch, and popularised a lightweight, intuitive, elegant UI … but part of you seems to resent their success.
Frankly, the HP/Palm offering sounds like a more worthy competitor to me. Nice aesthetics, by the look of them… which is important to me.
– P
By ‘they’ I meant who ever published the article, I don’t have the time nor really care who published the article. sorry for being generic
I’m not outraged, sometimes it comes across as such by reading my comments, but to be honest sometimes where I should edit my entries I either cannot think of a better way of stating something or I cannot be bothered changing it.
You are correct I am a fan of Apple gear I would love a Mac and a Macbook an a Ipad if I had the disposable income to splash around, they are fantastic and beautiful at what they do. But I would not get the value out of them. And most others don’t either, they would deny it but they don’t 14.999 out of 15 million people who bought Ipads certainly don’t. How do I know this because its not possible to get value out of it.
Do I still want one? yes for the 1379 price tag HELL NO
This is where I think I am honest with myself take for example the IPad its not a ‘game changer’ ,people get the blinkers on and want it too be a ‘game changer’ because people love them so much for whatever reason. And need justifcation for buying it.
People are playing games on them, consuming the Internet, and 10 people are kind of creating stuff. (Writing a novel that still cracks me up) I still refer to this video which wraps the whole thing up for me. Especially the line
“The HTC prints money, I don’t care give me Iphone 4.” Love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
Going forward the real competition is going to be from the Android HoneyComb devices they are starting to arrive as we speak in 12-24 months IPAD will be passed in sales. Just like the I-Phone.
re the knock-offs arriving any day soon… Honeycomb … well, you could be right… or Apple might have learned a bit from its dominance in MP3 players (i.e. *low* price points, constantly upgrading/making their own best product obsolete on a tight time cycle.)
It’s pretty clear the iPad is priced pretty competitively, despite your grizzles… otherwise competing technology would be out already at price fractions. Not so.
re you wanting Apple gear but not being able to afford it … try buying some second hand kit … I’ve bought plenty of Mac stuff SH and NEVER regretted it. I’ve bought 5-6 SH laptops. In fact I’ve only bought 3 laptops new-new — latest was a MBPro with sealed battery the week they came out with firewire reintroduced, and before that an original white iBook, and later an iBook G4 new — all the rest were SH.
A friend of mine just bought a recent iMac 24″ (I think) from a place that deals with repossessed gear…for $1300.
I loved that ‘I want an iPhone’ video – saw it when it originally came out. It’s knocking er ‘fixated’ one-eyed consumers, not the iPhone or its marketing per se.
Very amusing and well done. Wasn’t it by a cellphone warehouse salesman? And didn’t he get sacked and then reinstated in a hullabaloo?
This is what I meant about Apple pricing competitively:
From today’s Wired review: Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Hands-On: A Plastic Toy With a Gorgeous Screen …
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-hands-on-a-plastic-toy-with-a-gorgeous-screen/
Agree none of the Pads will be as svelt as the Ipad.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I did not see a price in this article? And even if its the same price as the Ipad from all reviews I have seen I would prefer this device to an Ipad. It has an actual operating system installed not a locked down App store with a Media Player.
And by the way the IPAD could be the cheapest Pad on the market buy $400 its still $600 NZ too expensive.
Sure $1300 is cheaper but I simply cannot justify it at this stage. 2nd Hand is certainly worth considering.
Craig: Read this …
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/02/16/rim-needs-to-shut-up-and-ship/
Reminds me of Microsoft’s ‘vaporware’ strategy …
The playbook was at CES, and it was a physical piece of hardware reviewers thought it was one of the best items at show.
Its just ridiculous company’s do this and lots have done it in recent times. Another similar strategy is claim company x is being looked at as being potentially bought by bigger company y. The old pump and dump.
Its a Scam.
Microsoft’s Steve Balmer made a point of being photographed at a gig like CES with a (prototype?) “slate” he said was running Windows a few weeks before the iPad was released…. trying to be a spoiler for Apple’s imminent product announcement.
15 million iPad sales later that “slate” machine is still not available for sale and word is that if/when it does come out, it will run Android not Windoze. (Update: Actually it was an HP … so it will be WebOS)
(See this BS claim: Microsoft’s Ballmer: Windows 7 slates are coming this year | July 12, 2010)
That’s how you become a market leader — ship.
Q: Can anyone in the world buy a production model RIM PlayBook today? Anywhere?
No the Playbook is not available…… will it be? who knows.
Just read another article referencing this one.
And realised in true Apple pumping this was only approved for a small Private Jet company, article is completely misleading why I am not surprised and why did I not read it properly. My FAIL
On the other hand I am happy that this was indeed blown up out of proportion and even missing THE fact stating this I was right.
First line: “… announced late last week that jet charter operator Executive Jet Management has received authorization from the Federal Aviation Administration to use the Jeppesen Mobile TC App for iPad as an alternative to paper charts.”
== blowing out of proportion stuff ==
Last line: “While the authorization is only for one jet charter operator, this could signal a move for rapid acceptance of the iPad in the cockpit by airlines.”
Flyboy721 comment: “…it will unfortunately not be nearly as quick and easy for the airlines to do the same. The FAA is notoriously waaaaaaay behind the curve when it comes to technology like such as this and is in fact even somewhat fearful of it…”
‘Completely misleading’ ??
Cheers, P
Yes agreed if I had read the whole article in detail it explains that its only certified for one small private company. But the aim of the article which you have been attracted too is this now means all Airlines commercial and Private will be using it soon also. Yeah Right !
This is highlighted in the last Paragraph you noted but I failed to read that far because I got through first 2 paragraphs and knew it was a puff piece.
Well, we saw this coming … but gee, “stowed during takeoff and landing” ?
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/28/ipads-on-the-flight-decks-of-alaska-airlines-aircraft/
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/airbus-offers-ipad-electronic-flight-bag-solution/#
Don’t get me started. 🙂
Right.
If I wanted to get you started I could have posted this Bloomberg story:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-09/samsung-wins-u-k-apple-ruling-over-not-as-cool-galaxy-tablet.html
I’m just processing Judge Colin Birss’s application to be an Apple fan boy.
– P
Update: fixing my mangled copy and paste. Doh! Coffee! Now!
But which device is better was not what the case was about.
Peter even you must know that being the big shot, in the know about the judicial system.
Even Samsung would admit the Ipad is better.
The case was about Apple bullying their way around making ridiculous claims on competition ripping off their own ripped off devices. It was so ridiculous a Apple Fanboy says no Sorry Apple you as good as your device is your being arseholes yet again.
But no, all the Apple dicks play the well we lost the battle but well have the last dig anyway card.
Sometimes I wonder about your integrity Peter if your defense is pro Journalism you pump that medium “freedom of speech” is the winner on the day. But if your angle is pro legislation, you play the can’t trust your anonymous source malarkey but you can trust proper due process.
I have just realised why I keep reading this Site. to see how long you will continue on this holier than now posting.
Oh you sweet boy, Craig. You bring such a smile to my face. Thanks.
‘Big shot’? Me? Pfft!
Hey, it’s great that you’ve worked out why you keep reading “this holier than now posting.”
w.e. You’re welcome.
– P
Sweet boy.
Condescending much ?
And with a reply like that, pretty much says to me
I’m pretty close to the mark.
Fair cop guvner. You got me bang to rights… 🙂
(signed)
‘Mister High & Mighty’ (groan)
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